The Desperate Housewives Slur Against Philippine Med Schools (Filipinos tend to be doormats and other comments)

5 10 2007

Taken from an article in E! Online:

I don’t watch this show, but it seems you can’t sit in a dark room by yourself, without offending someone. We have become such a touchy-feely society, that someone is almost guaranteed to be offended at anything shown somewhere in the world. If you don’t like it, change the channel. All this complaining is keeping lawyers in new Mercedes. I’m waiting for the backlash, because sooner or later there will be one. azkobushi on 10/04/2007 11:45AM

I agree with azkobushi. This whole political correctness thing has gotten way out of hand, particularly in the context of off-handed remark on a TV show. bnbliss on 10/04/2007 11:57AM

It was a freakin joke people – lighten up for crying out loud. jalee27 on 10/04/2007 11:58AM

If you all were Filipinos, you would be singing a different tune. I agree that the network and the shows producers SHOULD apologize. If we get targeted for saying a racial slur here in the US, it’s not okay and we get slammed. So, why is it okay for derogatory comments to be made about individuals in other countries? If it’s not okay for the African Americans, Hispanics, etc., then it should not be okay for people from a different country. Why is it necessary to put down people from another country to make a freakin’ joke. It’s not at all funny. evanettie on 10/04/2007 12:26PM

If the word “Filipino” was replaced with Gay or Muslim or Black or Latino, I am sure the entire USA will be in an uproar. Why is it that the very people who cry against discrimination (like the Democrats) will remain silent on a racial slur like this? The answer: Because Filipinos tend to be doormats John217 on 10/04/2007 12:47PM

Wow. I like sick/stupid/morbid/wrong or right humor as much as anybody but this ain’t funny. R on 10/04/2007 13:30PM

This is totally absurd. I’m from Mississippi. We’re always the punchline for any comment concerning poor people, stupid people, fat people, racist people, etc. If Susan had said, “Let me check these diplomas and make sure you didn’t go to school in Mississippi” there certainly wouldn’t be some big outcry for an apology from ABC. Not because there is any truth to the inference to be drawn from her statement, but because it’s not a big deal. It’s a tv show. Perhaps she should have referenced Virginia College or the DeVry Institute of Technology instead. K-How on 10/04/2007 14:52PM

Then perhaps “Susan” should have said Mississippi instead of the Phillipines, since it’s not a big deal to you people. It’s people like you who would make those kinds of inferences to begin with K-How. There’s no need to make “jokes” about an innocent country and/or their people who have absolutely nothing to do with the trainwreck that is known as Desperate Houseswives or any other TV show for that matter. It was uncalled for and, again, everyone involved with the scripting of that particular segment should apologize to the satisfaction of their country and their people. evanettie on 10/04/2007 15:54PM

It is really insulting. I don’t think it is a shallow outcry. It just show that Filipinos are united enough to not tolerate such satisfaction of a joke for the sake of integrity and rsepect of one’s profession. No one deserves such treatment. This is a time for sensitivity in the case of writers. We know how to make a stand and we Filipinos are very known for that… MD_FIL on 10/04/2007 16:00PM

It was not a racial slur, but it was insulting and offensive because there was no truth to the statement at all. It was a baseless comment that of course people will offense too, especially if you’re someone who’s obtained a medical degree in the Philippines. dc222 on 10/04/2007 16:08PM

Even though it may appear to be a minor incident, I believe the Filipinos are right to object. It is a form of stereotyping. A better line would have been, “You better not be certified by one of those online scams.” laflisa on 10/04/2007 16:11PM

Puhleeze! Get a life, people. This world has become too thin-skinned, with “activists” chomping at the bit to get their 15 mins. It didn’t offend me and I’m Filipino. You know what offends me? And I can, and have called this scenario on a few occasions: A Filipino person will spot me in a crowd, come over and ask me if I’m Filipino. I’ll say that, yes, I am. The next question is usually, “Do you speak the language?”, as if it’s the equivalent to a secret handshake. When I say no, more often than not, I immediately become a second-class citizen who isn’t worth conversing with. I have witnesses. That’s offensive. laughingatyou on 10/04/2007 17:47PM

botox and silicon filled desperado w…ewives desperate to insult hardworking minorities, it is so skanky! light on 10/04/2007 18:55PM

To: “laughingatyou”…. you obviously have a world of your own. you don’t have to be a Filpino to experience all these BS. C’mon, it’s probably an ice breaker or something.. even Americans or other nationalities who goes to the Philippines get’s asked that “dumbed” question. Whether you like it or not, you’ll always be a Filipino even if you don’t speak the language or have a green card. duh! Going back to the issue, regardless of anyone’s profession or race, one should not be feeling superior towards another. I am not a med school freak or anything but it sure does hurt if someone would just belittle what I have achieved. These writers apparently are insensitive… talk of ignorance. Chic on 10/04/2007 19:45PM

I’m as big a flag waving right winger as anyone I know but sheesh Americans can be insensitive. It isn’t a “percieved slur” Ms Hall, It’s a direct and classless slur. If you were a college graduate and someone denigrated your degree/school publicly it would probably anger you. Adding in the Filipino part of it implies ALL Filipino med school grads are incompetent. If you still don’t get it, substitute “Jew” or “Black” or womans med school and see how it reads. How about cueing that outrage? harhar on 10/04/2007 19:50PM

I want to be neutral and non-biased as much as possible, but I watched the show, and on my opinion it was a little derogatory. I am american caucasian mom and my doctor is a filipino who was raised and studied there. I have a huge respect for him, and he will not be here if they did not passed the US board exam. They studied a great length and took a lot of effort studying ang a lot of perseverance. I don’t think it was fair they mention the word from philippines. It’s a little racist for me the way it was made as a joke. I felt so bad I said my apology to my doctor. Who is a filipino and whose very inteligent than most of us who are so lazy to study and be a productive citizen of this country. There, I said my piece. My apology to all filipino doctors who was offended by this. BE_JUST_BE _FAIR on 10/04/2007 20:09PM


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5 10 2007
.:Chayenne:.

Well, what was your your opinion?

I don’t watch this show either, but I laughed when I saw the clip on YouTube. I’ve seen Recto, and yes, diploma mills are rampant over there.

Do I think it was racist? No.
Do I think it was politically incorrect? Yes.
Was it funny? Yes.

And this is a comment I left somewhere else:

Do you remember that show Abangan ang Susunod na Kabanata? (I don’t know how old you are, so I have ask.) That show was infinitely more politically incorrect and infinitely funnier than that little line on Desperate Housewives, and it was a show for Filipinos by Filipinos that skewered popular figures and events in the Philippines. O diba? Dapat wag asar talo!

But I don’t know. Maybe I’m in the minority on this, because everyone else seems to have their knickers in a twist over it. I say, meh. I’ve resisted the urge to blog about it, though, because I think the issue has already received undue attention as well as undue ire from the politically correct militia. ;P

6 10 2007
sleepyscout

I thought I didn’t need to add my opinion because everybody else have said their piece. That’s why I posted these comments. They’re more interesting than the actual article anyway, which even quoted senators and whatnot.

I grew up watching a lot of TV. It was sort of a substitute teacher. I love it, but at the same time I hate it. If you filter out the crap, you’ll be left with only a handful of shows. I remember Abangan ang Susunod na Kabanata. It was Tessie Tomas and Noel Trinidad, with a cry-baby Anjo Yllana. As I recall, I liked that show very much as a kid. I do wish people who watched it didn’t just laugh, because it said a lot about us as a society. Or maybe I’m just over-analyzing it.

I guess the difference between Abangan and Desperate Housewives is that one was a comment by Filipinos on Filipinos, while the other was a comment by foreigners on Filipinos. The first is easier to take, the latter scars. Like if an African American calls someone “nigger”, it’s cool. If a Caucasian says the same thing, he’s a racist. I’m not sure if that’s the best analogy, but you’re smart, so I know you’ll get what I’m trying to say.

OK, let’s get on with what-the-hell-is-my-opinion. I think the joke is crass, as is anything or anyone who puts down other people just to be funny or make himself feel superior. Was it really necessary? No. I do think it’s idiotic to ask an apology from Teri Hatcher, she didn’t write the script. I’m glad ABC issued an apology, and confused as to why some people aren’t satisfied with that. Maybe I’m just not as touchy about it because the joke didn’t directly hit me.

If I was a doctor, or a nurse, I’ll probably be more vocal. It’s not just a question of ego, either, but of respect in their profession, especially for those who now practice in America. If you work hard to be good at what you do, and suddenly someone dismisses you as a lesser person because of where you got your diploma, well, I’d be mad. Wouldn’t you?

6 10 2007
.:Chayenne:.

You’re not overanalyzing Abangan; it was a satire, after all, and it was much about exposing society’s current fixations and political snafus as much as it was about humor. =)

To be honest, the line said something about a medical school in the Philippines. Not a specific Filipino and not specifically Filipino doctors. Unless medical schools have, unbeknownst to me, become their own race, then, I don’t consider it racist. Yes, I’m arguing semantics, but I think it goes to show how silly this issue is.

Also, nobody is calling anyone a nigger or dogeater or whatever other term that actually is racist. There are diploma mills in the Philippines and I’m sure in numerous other places in the world. Do I think the Philippines should apologize for that? No, diskarte yun eh. Hehe. Do I think the Desperate Housewives people should apologize for commenting on that in a roundabout way? No, but perhaps they should have altered the line to specifically state (and I’m paraphrasing the now notorious line, because, like I said, I don’t watch the show) -

Can I look at the diplomas and make sure they’re not from a school in the Philippines, because there are diploma mills in the Philippines, no way am I implying that all Filipino doctors are quacks.

Yun, so it’s all clear and laid out in the open. Perhaps the militantly politically correct will have been satisfied then. Like you said, an apology has been issued, so I don’t understand what satisfaction the angry mob is seeking.

If you work hard to be good at what you do, and suddenly someone dismisses you as lesser person because of where you got your diploma, well, I’d be mad. Wouldn’t you?

I don’t have a diploma, although I wish I did, mainly so I won’t be poor and so that my poor mother will finally be happy. Haha. But, like you said, I’m smart (so flattered you said that, by the by!), and I don’t need a piece of paper to define that. =)

You know what? I like you, Scout. Ilang beses pa lang ako nakakapunta dito but each visit to your blog is refreshing. Intelligent discourse is <3. ^_^

6 10 2007
sleepyscout

high five right there! ;) we are, at least, on the same page with regards to diplomas and similar pieces of paper. a marriage contract, for example. that’s kinda personal because i know i’ll never be able to get married in my own country. not in this lifetime. damn bigots in congress.

i’m glad you like the blog. i miss having someone to throw ideas with online. i used to have one, but she’s graduated from med school and is a busy doctor now, albeit with a lowly philippine diploma. :P

someday we’ll get rich and both make our moms happy, degree or no degree. and yes, you really are smart. but i’m slightly biased towards bookworms, so you may have had a bit of an edge there. i’ll see you around. ;)

8 10 2007
Ben Brillantes

Most of the reaction has been emotional rather than rational. Hoswever, I found an interesting perspective on the subject from another Filipino blog here:

http://asbb-foreignexchange.blogspot.com/2007/10/i-was-going-to-conclude-ten-letters.html

Some food for thought to digest, certainly.

8 10 2007
sleepyscout

Thanks for the link. The blogger’s personal experience with educational discrimination is something to think about.

10 10 2007
tonette osmena

The writer is MARC H CHERRY, 45 yrs old. The Filipino basher is a self-proclaimed CONSERVATIVE GAY REPUBLICAN who lives since June 1, 2005 at 4352 Coldwater Canyon Ave, Studio City CA 91604.

http://www.tv.com/desperate-housewives/now-you-know/episode/1074352/summary.html

http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=4352%20COLDWATER%20CANYON%20AVE+STUDIO%20CITY+CA+91604

13 10 2007
Ben Brillantes

Yes, I think I have to agree with what this guy says on his blog:

http://asbb-foreignexchange.blogspot.com/2007/10/final-word-in-desperation.html
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I will end my commentary on the whole issue by simply asking why we
think it is perfectly alright for us to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QusLouQhEfo

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDQJGIFzV1Q&mode=related&search=

and even for one of our most respected politicans to say this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBEuhLlNYTY

but when anyone dares to poke fun at a segment of our population like
this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYB4H0Po0A0

everyone immediately cries racism and discrimination?

6 05 2008
heh

You know it’s the truth Flipino’s suck at everything, they have no class or pride in their workmanship. I would NEVER go to Filipino doctor

6 05 2008
Sabrina

It’s just a comedy get over it!!!!!!!!!

6 05 2008
sleepyscout

Sabrina: It’s always funny until we’re the ones getting made fun of. Feel free to laugh.

heh: There’s a reason why hasty generalizations are considered fallacies. ;)

11 05 2008
tq

hmm, dear me, i’ve been so stuck in limbo that its only now that i got to read this piece you posted on the desperate housewives slur against filipino doctors.

belive me when i say that i had to watch it several times before i actually believed that a show as highly acclaimed as desperate housewives and a network as distinguished as ABC would put that kind of a statement on the air.

true, that you can have a medical diploma for a fee in manila, but a diploma doesn’t make you a doctor. i’m a graduate from ’some’ med school in the philippines and i worked (am still working) my ass off to get my diploma and to be a decent doctor. so imagine what i felt when i heard that some actress was dissing the very profession (rather, vocation) i chose.

try diagnosing without the help of laboratories and ancillaries. or curing by just using one modality. or treating a lifelong disease with just one drug. or doing surgery with the most limited equipment. that’s how good the ‘real’ filipino doctors are. we have to work in the direst of circumstances and still treat the ailments of our patients.

generalizations never really do anyone any good. most of the time, generalizations are based on isolated events. ironic, isn’t it?

i’ve stopped watching desperate housewives. call it a form of protest. i’m just one viewer, but at least, i’ve made my stand.

13 05 2008
sleepyscout

nice that you got to read it, ‘coz i was actually thinking about you when i posted this entry. ;) like my quote above says, “The one thing that doesn’t abide by majority rule is a person’s conscience.”

nevermind Desperate Housewives. i heard interesting things are happening on Grey’s Anatomy. i think i’ll have a new guilty pleasure.

http://www.afterellen.com/TV/2008/5/greysanatomy

13 05 2008
tq

huwat? what season of grey’s anatomy are we in already? ive only seen the first episode of the 4th season…

sounds like a good storyline but i was never really a fan of callie…

its about time they put in a gay storyline. and i think its great that they’re putting it in a high profile tv series. i just hope that they don’t murder the storyline.

15 05 2008
sleepyscout

I’ve only read the recent recaps, and so far they’re taking things nice and slow. Maybe still gauging how the audience will react. sa House MD meron din with the newbie Thirteen. hmmm…

17 05 2008
tq

hmm, i guess i have a lot of catching up to do. hopefully, ill have the time na. haha.

5 08 2009
missgiftsphilippines

Teri? what i think about her? i hate her. for saying such bad thoughts bout Filipinos. i know that its not personally her, its the script. but im pointing out the writers of that show. don’t be racists.

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